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		<title>Is Aborting A Disabled Fetus Compassionate?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many people sadly believe abortion a disabled child is an act of compassion.  What is even sadder is many of these people are Christians.  I just had a conversation with one of these Christians and here is the log. [23:53] Them: have there been higher rates of autism and aspergers occuring/being diagosed in america in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Many people sadly believe abortion a disabled child is an act of compassion.  What is even sadder is many of these people are Christians.  I just had a conversation with one of these Christians and here is the log.<span id="more-38"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>[23:53] Them: have there been higher rates of autism and aspergers occuring/being diagosed in america in the past few years?<br />
[23:54] Me: yes<br />
[23:54] Me: but that has nothing to do with them calling autistic people a disaster of epedemic proporations<br />
[23:55] Me: thats just like saying your a disaster because of your seizures<br />
[23:55] Them: no.<br />
[23:55] Them: listen<br />
[23:55] Them: so there have been noticibly increased rates<br />
[23:55] Them: if there were a sudden outbreak of bird flu, unlike any other recorded in history<br />
[23:55] Them: would you consider it an epidemic?<br />
[23:55] Me: the flu is a contangen that is harmful to life<br />
[23:55] Me: Autism is not<br />
[23:56] Me: if you go by that standard then red heads are an epedemic<br />
[23:56] Me: as well as brown haired people<br />
[23:57] Them: no<br />
[23:57] Them: because there have been the same amount of those colored hair people throughout history.<br />
[23:57] Them: we can take another genetic disease, i dont care.<br />
[23:57] Them: cerebal palsy<br />
[23:58] Them: if suddently the percentage of children born with cerebal palsy shot through the roof<br />
[23:58] Me: Autism is not a disease<br />
[23:58] Them: it would be called an epidemic<br />
[23:58] Them: fine. condition.<br />
[23:58] Me: but your nitpicking on the word epedemic<br />
[23:58] Me: which is beyond the point, but I enjoy a good debate<br />
[23:59] Them: i’m just trying to point out to you that its not insulting to call something an epidemic<br />
[23:59] Me: it is insulting to call it a disaster<br />
[00:00] Them: do you not think that millions of people going through a severe brain disorder is not a disaster?<br />
[00:00] Them: it’s certainly something awful for the people involved, parents, families, etc.<br />
[00:01] Me: well if Autism Speaks has there way if I was born a few years down the road my mother would be encouraged to abort me<br />
[00:01] Me: they have already nailed part of the spectrum on that<br />
[00:02] Them: would you really want to bring a child into this life who would have to live with autism?<br />
[00:02] Them: knowing what you know now<br />
[00:02] Them: if you had the choice to spare someone a difficult life, would you?<br />
[00:03] Me: No, I would not abort a child because I knew they would be autistic<br />
[00:03] Them: would you abort a child if you knew they were going to be severely physically deformed?<br />
[00:04] Them: sickly for their whole life?<br />
[00:04] Me: No<br />
[00:04] Me: But you are comparing apples and oragnes<br />
[00:04] Them: not at all<br />
[00:04] Me: Autistic people are not sickly there whole life<br />
[00:04] Them: look<br />
[00:04] Them: autism/aspergers no DOUBT causes some distress<br />
[00:05] Them: if not a lot of discomfort, problems, upset<br />
[00:05] Them: if people are morally okay with aborting a child to prevent a life of discomfort, pain, upset<br />
[00:05] Them: that’s likely the reasoning behind it<br />
[00:07] Me: So if you were going to have a kid on the Autism Spectrum – would you abort it?<br />
[00:07] Them: i dont know<br />
[00:07] Them: depends<br />
[00:08] Me: on what does it depend?<br />
[00:09] Them: how far along my pregnancy is, how the father feels, etc<br />
[00:10] Me: so you view me as a lesser life form then you?<br />
[00:10] Them: yes. thats precisely what i’m saying.<br />
[00:11] Me: what makes me a lesser life form then you?<br />
[00:11] Them: i was being sarcastic.<br />
[00:12] Me: then I’m still waiting for an answer<br />
[00:13] Them: no! God, of COURSE not. how can you even think that?<br />
[00:13] Them: if i really thought that, would i even engage in conversation with you?<br />
[00:14] Me: then I hate to be harsh, but you just said that if you were pregnant with a child and you knew it was on the Autism Spectrum you would seriously consider aborting it<br />
[00:14] Them: BECAUSE I WOULD BE COMPASSIONATE<br />
[00:14] Them: jesus christ, zach!<br />
[00:14] Them: i just went over the fact that i would if my child had cerebal palsy<br />
[00:14] Them: to AVOID the pain and discomfort.<br />
[00:15] Them: to spare a life of hardship<br />
[00:15] Me: so you would consider aborting someone like me?<br />
[00:15] Them: i’m not having this conversation anymore.</p></blockquote>
<p>What upsets me is the fact that they as someone who is very Christian thinks that abortion is a compassionate thing and would be a good and encouragable thing to do.  <strong>What are your thoughts on abortion in the case of disability.</strong></p>
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